Matvey, I would like to clarify my point of view. You wrote: > This means that any text orginating on your Mac is in >AppleStdCyrrilic, but as you send it out, it's converted into KOI8; vice >versa for the incoming text: it's in KOI8 originally, but is converted into >AppleStdCyrillic as it comes in. Sounds kinda complicated? Sure does. In fact, such kind of character transliteration is usual thing on Internet. Take Eudora, for example. And this is the only way of communication between different computer platforms. A similar transliteration performed between AV and Windows encoding and KOI8 when sending and receiving mail in exSU. > First, to accomplish all of this, Mr. Saukh is proposing to use >ResEdit (!) and hack every application (Eudora is an exeption, see below) >with conversion tables which he authored. Of course it's not such a big >deal to use ResEdit, that is, if you know what you're doing... What about >an average user who just bought his/her first Mac and didn't have any prior >Mac programming experience? Well, this is a good point. If you don't know what are you doing with ResEdit the best thing is simply to use KOI8 font in application which supports it. Not every application supports KOI8 unfortunately! However, I would like to say that the MAIN ADVANTAGE OF CONVERTING THE DATA STREAM TO/FROM APPLE CYRILLIC IS THAT YOU CAN USE CYRILLIC FILES WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL TRANSLITERATION. Simply save a document or copy it to the clipboard and voila... Another point is "native" Mac cyrillic fonts are better in quality than KOI8. So you get nicely looking documents. >>The solutions available through the Internet (koi8 fonts, keyboards, ...) >>does not allow to handle received info in natural way (IMHO). So I decided >>to share my results with you. > >Natural is Apple? Maybe for Apple itself, but is hardly natural to go >through a cascade of conversions when there's an elegant way to avoid them >altogether. Natural for users as well, IMHO. >Haven't tried it with NewsWatcher, but why bother if there's Nuntius - THE >best Mac newsreader not only in my opinion... And all you need is a little >of Preference dialog box setting... I use NewsWatcher with no problems at all. It is stable and I can use standard Mac operations (copy, paste etc) on cyrillic file without doing transliteration. Nuntius is fine but it takes too much memory and it is slower then NewsWatcher. >>Netscape 1.0N: Replace with ResEdit content of resource 128 in 'xlat' with >>content >>of resource 1001 in 'taBL' from file 'koi8-r taBL' (attached below). Do >>the same >>for 129<--1002. > >Tried that. Made my Netscape very unstable and it was crashing and >producing numerous obscure errors on me, until the hacked copy ended up in >my Trash can. I use russified Netscape on Performa 450 with 7.1. No trouble at all. It is important to use Latinskij (12) as proportional font and Pryamoi (9) as fixed fo nt. >P.S. I'll make available a copy of the original USENET article, both >ResEdit resource files, a copy of this message, as well as any relevant >replies on my WWW server. > It is very good idea! Yours, Ivan Maximov ******************************************************************** Ivan A. Maximov Phone:+46-46 10 95 86 Solid State Physics Department 10 44 95 University of Lund Home: 14 72 92 Box 118, S-221 00 Fax: +46-46 10 36 37 Lund, Sweden E-mail:Ivan.Maximov@ftf.lth.se ********************************************************************